In an exclusive interview with
ABC News' Jonathan Karl, Cheney reflects on the "miracle" that a heart
transplant promises to give him years of added life. And Cheney shows he
is as confrontational as ever, taking on President Obama -- and even
Sarah Palin.
Cheney, 71, details how far back
he has come. He remembers waking from weeks of heavy sedation after
having a pump installed in his heart in 2010, a grueling operation that
left him seeing his own mortality in the mirror.
"Two years ago this time I was on
a respirator, heavily sedated. Just had a pump... installed on my heart
because my heart had gotten so weak after six heart attacks and 30-some
years of heart disease that it was, you know, it was at the end," he
said.
"I lost 40 pounds. I was heavily sedated in the intensive care unit
for weeks afterwards. I had pneumonia while I was in recovering from the
surgery. And by the time I came out from under I looked in a mirror and
what I saw was my dad shortly before he died. He was in his 80s,"
Cheney said.
That is why Cheney, in his first
interview since his heart transplant four months ago, calls his recovery
"nothing short of a miracle."
"I haven't felt this good in years," he said.
He doesn't know who gave him his
new heart because protocol is to maintain anonymity, but the former vice
president said there is a program that allows an intermediary to reach
out to the donor family to see if they want contact with the recipient.
"At some point I would be, you know, certainly amenable to contact
with the family. But we have not at this point exchanged any
information," Cheney said.
If contact was made, Cheney said
he would "express my gratitude for what's a magnificent gift. I can't
think of a more magnificent gift than to be given additional years of
life."
Healthy again, Cheney has resumed his love of fishing and his frank evaluations of politicians, including himself.
Cheney left office as one of the
most unpopular vice presidents in the country's history, but the man
known for his defiance of public opinion is vintage Cheney.
"I'm very comfortable with what I did, and why I did it, and how I did it," he said.When asked if he had any regrets, Cheney replied, "Not really."
"You can't be judged, and shouldn't judge, people in those senior levels by the polls," he told ABC News.
He does not spare his fellow Republicans, calling Sen. John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his vice president running mate a "mistake."
Cheney said Palin had been
governor of Alaska for two years at the time and "did not pass the test"
of being ready to be president.
He also wryly described how the list of vice presidential candidates is used by officials up for reelection.
"I had a couple of calls from
politicians who'd say, 'You know, it'd really help me in my race back
home, Dick, if I was on the list.' Done. You're on the list," said
Cheney. "Then somebody could go leak the fact that they were on the
list."
Cheney helped vet candidates for Gerald Ford in 1976 and George W. Bush in 2000 that ultimately settled on Cheney.
"But that was the big list. It was easy to get on the big list. The
tough part is the small list, the one that's really under active
consideration," he said.Cheney's harshest criticism, however, was for President Obama.
"I obviously am not a big fan of
President Obama. I think he's been one of our weakest presidents. I just
fundamentally disagree with him philosophically. I'd be hard put to
find any Democratic president that I've disagreed with more," he said.
When asked if he thought Obama was "worse than Jimmy Carter," Cheney replied, "Yes."
Cheney gave Obama credited for killing al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden,
but added that "a lot of that intelligence that laid the groundwork for
what ultimately led to the capture of Bin Laden [was] as a result of
programs we had in place in the Bush administration."
He was sharply critical, however, of Obama's plans to withdraw troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
"We should not be running for the exits. We should not be turning our backs on our friends in that part of the world," he said.
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